What is the Definition of So Willfully Ignorant One Should Be Considered as Totally Bullshit?
My answer to that is:
knowing that the actual facts (not opinions, hopes, dreams, desired state of reality) overwhelmingly say the situation or thing is in one state of being, and persisting in expressing the belief that it is the near or exactly opposite state that the facts do prove it is in being.
In other words, if you deny reality, you are full of bullshit.
(And you likely know where I am going next) and that brings up the subject of Plastic Turkey Man's abomination of an occupation of Iraq.
"BAGHDAD, Sept. 26 -- A strong majority of Iraqis want U.S.-led military forces to immediately withdraw from the country, saying their swift departure would make Iraq more secure and decrease sectarian violence, according to new polls by the State Department and independent researchers."
Yankee Go Home!
The percentage of Iraqis who want the Yankees to Go Home is nearly the same as the percentage of Americans who what the troops to come home. And yet, there are some tools still slinging this bullshit about staying the course, or winning the war (I have yet to encounter anything resembling a rational definition for winning in Iraq, save what I and them that think like I do define it as; getting the Eff outta there, ASAP!)
But beyond the general ignoring the will of the people there, who clearly mostly want us as in the US gone? That crap about 'hearts and minds?'
I am getting more specific here, yes. That phrase about winning 'hearts and minds' s being kicked around a lot again, but again my point here is facts not wishful thinking.
Do you really care about the minds (and hearts) of Iraqis? DO YOU? Then prove it or shut the Eff up about that sort of thing. And if you want to prove that you actually really do care about the hearts and minds of Iraqis (as opposed to you being either totally full of bullshit, or as despicable a person as a common vulgar liar), you really need to pay attention to what they say.
I say again:
You really need to pay attention to what they say!
This is what they say.
And I repeat exactly what I have already posted here.
"BAGHDAD, Sept. 26 -- A strong majority of Iraqis want U.S.-led military forces to immediately withdraw from the country, saying their swift departure would make Iraq more secure and decrease sectarian violence, according to new polls by the State Department and independent researchers."
Do you get it yet? I will go further. Their minds are already made up, and you are not going to change their damn minds; they want us to go.
How can anyone miss the obvious? Is that some Republican thing? I have often compared the dysfunctional way Republicans behave as that of Abusive Spouses/Mates. But in this case, the Pro Iraq War Republicans, lead by Plastic Turkey Man, are acting like scumbag rapists.
The people of Iraq are saying:
"NO! Hands off my body!"
And George Bush and the rest of the Pro War party are saying:
"Naaa! You really Want it. Stop resiting. I will hurt you. Is that what you want you dirty bitch? I'll hurt you good."
Disagree with me if you must, but if invading by force and continuing to occupy a country that did not either invite the occupying force, or did not engage in some acts of aggression so serious to warrant invasion and occupation, is NOT directly analogous to forcible rape, than there is no such a thing as rape. As long as the more physically powerful party says it is ok, that is all that counts.
Well?
What say you?
knowing that the actual facts (not opinions, hopes, dreams, desired state of reality) overwhelmingly say the situation or thing is in one state of being, and persisting in expressing the belief that it is the near or exactly opposite state that the facts do prove it is in being.
In other words, if you deny reality, you are full of bullshit.
(And you likely know where I am going next) and that brings up the subject of Plastic Turkey Man's abomination of an occupation of Iraq.
"BAGHDAD, Sept. 26 -- A strong majority of Iraqis want U.S.-led military forces to immediately withdraw from the country, saying their swift departure would make Iraq more secure and decrease sectarian violence, according to new polls by the State Department and independent researchers."
Yankee Go Home!
The percentage of Iraqis who want the Yankees to Go Home is nearly the same as the percentage of Americans who what the troops to come home. And yet, there are some tools still slinging this bullshit about staying the course, or winning the war (I have yet to encounter anything resembling a rational definition for winning in Iraq, save what I and them that think like I do define it as; getting the Eff outta there, ASAP!)
But beyond the general ignoring the will of the people there, who clearly mostly want us as in the US gone? That crap about 'hearts and minds?'
I am getting more specific here, yes. That phrase about winning 'hearts and minds' s being kicked around a lot again, but again my point here is facts not wishful thinking.
Do you really care about the minds (and hearts) of Iraqis? DO YOU? Then prove it or shut the Eff up about that sort of thing. And if you want to prove that you actually really do care about the hearts and minds of Iraqis (as opposed to you being either totally full of bullshit, or as despicable a person as a common vulgar liar), you really need to pay attention to what they say.
I say again:
You really need to pay attention to what they say!
This is what they say.
And I repeat exactly what I have already posted here.
"BAGHDAD, Sept. 26 -- A strong majority of Iraqis want U.S.-led military forces to immediately withdraw from the country, saying their swift departure would make Iraq more secure and decrease sectarian violence, according to new polls by the State Department and independent researchers."
Do you get it yet? I will go further. Their minds are already made up, and you are not going to change their damn minds; they want us to go.
How can anyone miss the obvious? Is that some Republican thing? I have often compared the dysfunctional way Republicans behave as that of Abusive Spouses/Mates. But in this case, the Pro Iraq War Republicans, lead by Plastic Turkey Man, are acting like scumbag rapists.
The people of Iraq are saying:
"NO! Hands off my body!"
And George Bush and the rest of the Pro War party are saying:
"Naaa! You really Want it. Stop resiting. I will hurt you. Is that what you want you dirty bitch? I'll hurt you good."
Disagree with me if you must, but if invading by force and continuing to occupy a country that did not either invite the occupying force, or did not engage in some acts of aggression so serious to warrant invasion and occupation, is NOT directly analogous to forcible rape, than there is no such a thing as rape. As long as the more physically powerful party says it is ok, that is all that counts.
Well?
What say you?
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